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darth frosty
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Today was my first time...
by serenitynow! inbuying christmas gifts!
i decided to participate in the salvation army angel tree program where you buy stuff on kids' wishlists.
i spent the day in and out of stores trying to find cute things.. i felt really "normal," for probably the first time ever..
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darth frosty
Nothing like getting that cherry popped, it just gets better and better from here on out.
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Shackled to the Watchtower: A distinction every Jehovah's Witness should acknowledge
by Nickolas inif one was to take a poll of all the registered users of this board he might be surprised by the number of people who still attend meetings and/or still go door to door.
a contributor to a recent thread, expressing worry that she is on the threshold of being outed, posited that fear is what fills the seats in the kingdom hall.
fear, not love.
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WikiLeaks Bombshell re: US UK "R-Relationship"
by SixofNine in.
reliability and longevity of uk-us relationship confirmed.
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darth frosty
WOW...JUst wow!
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Satan gets off scot free with his rebellion !!
by smiddy inthink about it..... eve was supposedly deceived by satan,and adam, afraid of losing his partner went along with her folly.the outcome??.
adam & eve were told they would die in the" day" of their eating of the forbidden fruit.. that didn`t happen,they both lived hundreds of years after this event,fathering and mothering sons & daughters.
did god lie or was he just inadequate in articulating his judgement.. god said in the day you eat of it`s fruit you will surely die.
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darth frosty
If you read the genesis account (ch 3) its clear that god lied. The serpent proposed that GOD KNOWS when you eat of the fruit you will be like god!
Once they ate and judgement was past down to them GOD SAY'S look they have become like us knowing good and bad.
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I found a letter that we got from Bethel when we left, it clearly says publishing plant operations.
by life is to short ini was going through some boxes the other day and found the letter we received to use for reference's in looking for work after bethel.. we left bethel in 1994 a long time ago now it seems.
the letter was written by max larson.
i have not seen this letter for years and reading it this time it struck me how cold it really was.
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darth frosty
I didn't even bother to get a letter.
I'll tell ya what really hurts...Y'no when you get that social security thing that shows the years you work and your contributions and when you get to your bethel years a nice fat 0.
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I listened to the meeting over the phone with my grandmother. This religion is nuts!!
by miseryloveselders inmy grandmother has been a little ill, and had to be put in a facility temporarily.
she should be getting out sometime next week.
i'm not particularly close with her, and that probably has a lot to do with my father.
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darth frosty
Whoa In sincere keanu reeves voice.
Yeah its amazing how they push crap like its some divine edict?!? and yet the question of 'Isn't this like the failed MTS school? never seems to cross their minds.
I said to myself, "This nigga's crazy." I know I shouldn't but I fell out laughing at this.
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Another question about the Governing Body
by dgp innow that all the members of the original governing body have completed their earthly course, a question popped into my mind.. i know that there was no governing body prior to 1971. before that, how was jehovah supposed to communicate with the anointed?
and, how come he decided to have a governing body, so that the new light would come to more men, instead of just the president of the watchtower?
why was a governing body not there since 1914, for example?.
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darth frosty
As far as the Dis-felloshiping thing here is something I wrote a while ago about pauls intentions from this post.
As far as them worshiping paul, your right. I believe that despite his enlightenment that happened on the road to damascus, paul still felt a need to hold on to the hard core rules of judism. On the flip side one thing about paul he was quick to amend a wrong.
I love the account that the dubs point out to justify DF'ing. The story of the man knocking off his step-mom and the whole congo knew. Paul came down hard on him and said the congo should have nothing to do with him. Within six months of sending out that letter, the congo had another one in their hands telling them to disregard what he had said earlier and to accept the guy back into the fold, saying he had repented and suffered enough.
Now think about this. There is a time difference of six months between 1 cor and 2 cor. 6 months!!! We're talking about 1st century mail here. In six months time paul coined the first letter and sent it out, got feedback and tales of repentence on part of the sinner (oh I forgot to mention that his heavy handed sentence was causing divisions in the congo because many felt it was too harsh a punishment.) So hearing about the commotion and anguish his words were causing...paul retracted his statement. He said to accept him back so as not to have division in the congo that satan can take advantage of. So for the betterment of the congo paul in 2 books or letters started the practice of disfellowshiping and did away with it. Pity the dubs dont look closer to the real end results of this practice.
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Were You Happy That Jack Barr Of The GB Died?
by minimus ini read that some are quite happy that another gb bites the dust.. i think of my "faithful" elderly jw mother who helped many many families come into the "truth".
she's an intelligent woman.
however, she's blinded by her beliefs (being in a cult).
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darth frosty
This is my take...JW's as an BORGanization is bad! Sadly it is made up of some good individual people who are duped (as most of us were at some point.)
One of the great things (or dis-service) that Knorr pulled off was to move the JW's from cult status with a central figure or leader to follow and take them a step down to high control group status. Yes we hear about the GB and all of the hurtfull decisions they have made but what always gets lost is the GB didn't come into being till the 70's.
Barr seemed to me in my limited interactions a nice old guy. thus some one who could've been easily persuaded and manipulated by the more powerfull and controlling members of the GB.
When dealing with the JW's I feel we need to be able to separate the individual from the collective. Just like I always hear folks rail against the elders...Thankfully for the most part I have worked with good bodies of elders when I was a believer. Yeah there were some assholes but they were the minority.
Ironically I just saw my old BS conductor the other day we shared a breif walk and talked about ordinary things till we reached our destination.
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The Governing Body and 2 Chronicles 10:13-16
by metatron injudging from some recent events and the km school in particular, it sounds like the (younger) governing body members are following the course of king rehoboam, with all their talk about college and blood.. i couldn't be more pleased.. metatron.
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darth frosty
Sooo ur saying their little finger will be heavier than jaraz thigh?
LOL
One thing I learned at bethel, all the cats that are waiting in the wings, are merely biding their time till they could exercise power over others. Its the nature of bethel and the way its set up.